I have a hard time with that because the tomatoes are innocent varieties that were developed before GM veggie products were even on the market. If you call and ask, I can imagine you could get the run around. Great prices. The question means, that based on all the preceding explanation I gave of the difficulty I was having with the conversation, why would I want to continue it? Does Ferry-Morse have a catalog? That is the best way to find out who owns a company. 0000492812 00000 n GMOs dont seem to concern you. I expect the same good faith from you. I have already answered this at least twice. 0000003294 00000 n We grow our lawn without fertilizer and use clover and leave selective weeds in the lawn. So I don't trust the viability of this list. 0000033228 00000 n Companies are bought and sold every day in the seed business, and the corporate owners usually have nothing to do with the good people working at them who are hard working employees, many who like gardening and natural living, like me. In 1958, the company formally changed their name to Asgrow Seed Company. And to be honest, I think above all companies, they won't be lying about this! I could write an article stating that the government is doing covert genetic testing on citizens by adding something to the water to make people taller or shorter and people would think it was legitimate, because some random person typed it up and posted it online. For that reason I did not respond to your comments that were not relevant to the points, and that should not be assumed to be agreement, but only my way of prioritizing what was important (from my POV). What a person intends and what they end up doing are not always the same. Kellogg. Please research the 250,000 suicides issue you referenced in the earlier post. But, to be honest, that is an effect more of the monolithic style of farming that has been the standard in this country since the end of the Second World War rather than a direct result of growing genetically engineered plants. In the end, I think it is rather ridiculous to toss the entire biotech industry based on the fact that bad things have happened. With over 1800 seed varieties on offer, the company is proud to have veggies like Black Incan Corn, Coffee Okra and Marble Beans on its roster. --, if I must only bow to Anti-Monsanto preachers or Monsanto marketers.. Do you see yourself as above the fray? If Monsanto buys the mortgage to a house you live in one day, I wouldn't hold it against you and I would still respect any of my friends, because I like my friends and I don't have to like who owns the house they sleep and breed in :-). Now headquartered in Norton, Massachusetts, we take pride in providing you with high quality products and the inspiration to bring your . It even shows up innocently on GW here, except misquoting the quarter of a million figure total as a quarter of a million people per year :-( You are not pleased with me for "picking apart", even though you request fact checking on your link. Youll have to show me where I have labeled you. You are free to say whatever you want and I don't complain or label what you say as a "campaign slogan" or "hollow" which is not respectful. Monsanto and the other companies you mention, are basically in the biotech field. The smaller seed companies I was referring to are generally independent operators and do not have the resources of Big Ag behind them. It is available, however the poorest starving workers currently earn more using the GM cotton, which to them means more money for nutrition, health and the other necessities their earnings buy. There is nothing wrong with my logic. You seem to feel that what you have to say is much more important than anything I have to say. I think we can both persue our understanding of GMO issues separately and perhaps, in the future we can stick to discussing which tomato tastes the best. [3] Its profits continued to be stable until 1865, when Ferry bought out Gardner's share and took over the company. 0000510116 00000 n D.M. Ferry Seed Company - Nursery and Seed Catalogs - Research Guides You said it is an emotional issue and I respect that, but it doesn't give anyone the right to say hurtful things like not thinking what you say is important after coming this far. :-), I hope that clarifies what I was trying to say. Nothing. Find My Store. If you have done any research at all, you have to be aware of things that Monsanto has done and is doing, that you dont agree with. This kind of statement makes the conversation now about me and keeps diverting the conversation away from the topic and adds lengthy discussion back and forth about me. Or is it just that you reject the idea that it could possibly be a frightening outcome? Ferry-Morse 3.6G Wildflower Sunny Meadow Mixture Flower Seeds Packet - Seed Gardening, Full Sunlight. I looked and this is the one Mother Earth News article that I was thinking of in particular. That can only be because you have failed to grasp what my concerns are and what they mean. And here is another article, from Reuters. There has been more proven environmental damage caused by planting invasives, over-use of fertilizers, and habitat destruction then GMOs. What we . The movie, etc., claimes a quarter of a million people have killed themselves because of GMOs. You repeat your reasons for participating in the conversation like a campaign slogan but in the face of the way you participate, it rings a little hollow to me. I take umbrage to that comment. Disclaimer: I worked for a seed company that was being purchased by Monsanto, in a GMO-free operation. Being undecided means I have issues with both sides. 2023 Plantation Products, LLC, dba Green Garden Products. As a matter of fact, I don't even find it clear and understandable. 0000001396 00000 n You accused me of labeling you. You seem to be trying to straddle both sides and see yourself above everyone else. If any of that information is inaccurate, maybe someone on this thread can point out what it is. 0000510282 00000 n I'm just sharing my take on it. 0000018697 00000 n 0000509606 00000 n Two people posted about two seed companies on the list. And once again - there is the old 'debate theories and rules,' that you have decided apply to our conversation. I prefer to make my own decisions and not be conned. Anyone have any information about that? 0000010754 00000 n There are so many, many tomato seeds in the world there has to be enough for everyone, that we can do without a couple, if it means gaining something more valuable. Really, a good rule of thumb is that if an article criticizing GMOs doesn't mention DuPont or Syngenta, they really don't know what they are talking about. Similar to our situation with the food supply, dependence on the government is only a service to the government, never the governed. Ferry-Morse. Approximately 40% of the rice harvest is lost each year to pest and disease issues as a result of the protracted flooding of paddies. I see some noble motive given to something, like trying to cure disease attached to the pursuit of biotech methods, but many other motives become more the focus as that pursuit develops. I will continue to grow my varieties no matter who makes them since any home garden variety I can buy is GMO-free so it is a no-brainer since I like the variety I should stick up for it because tomato seeds don't have a voice in this mess and they will be lost forever, and anyone boycotting home garden seeds that Monsanto bought will only contribute to the loss of these varieties since Monsanto is only a friend of its shareholders and with the stroke of a pen will stop producting these varieties and make them lost forever. If someone could only convince farmers to stop using GMO seeds. When I entered this thread, it was a year ago, when I had the time to participate fully in a discussion. Ferry-Morse also set the industry standards for seed quality including insisting upon seed freshness and testing germination rates. Between Monsanto having all the wealth on their side, to blanket us with their own carefully crafted PR campaign and the government having the power to give them carte blanche, it's easy to see why those that oppose what they are doing have a hard time being heard and understood. [3] Ferry built a new warehouse, and by 1890 was doing over a million and a half dollars in business annually. ~ Are you not against any of the things that Monsanto has done or is doing? When you infer (incorrectly) I could be labeling you, you miss the foundation of my point, which is that anti-Monsanto preachers and Monsanto marketers are a false dichotomy (a.k.a., an exclusion of the middle) and my context is that I will not succumb to either rhetorical extreme (faith-based or money-based). Bayer acquired Monsanto (an American agrochemical and agricultural biotechnology corporation founded in 1901 -wiki) in 2018, who had acquired Seminis (the largest developer, grower and marketer of fruit and vegetable seeds in the world - wiki) in 2005. I share my experiences about organic growing. FWIW, and a big LOL to that, in the spirit of completeness, Monsanto is one of them. Is Garden of Life owned by Monsanto? 2. a discussion involving differing points of view; debate: And no, I did not expect you to read all the links and report back on them to the thread. You see diseases developing, like the Citrus Greening disease, and you think, wellmaybe GMO and Monsanto will rescue us from these. Can we distinguish between, what you said --- that I originally said that getting the word out produced a better understanding. To choose to evaluate each product on a case by case basis -- If I understand you to mean that if a product is GMO based, you will evaluate it at that point? I don't think that that is a very reliable list. As a result, Ferry-Morse has earned the trust and respect of retailers and home gardeners across the country. So, no, I do not envision Monsanto doing anything about it or "rescuing us" as you put it. That is an analysis of my part of the conversation and intentions and a label that youve added to describe your interpretation of it. Through generations of care and quality, Ferry-Morse has earned the trust of home gardeners across the country. I Like The Natural Species given by Mother Nature Much Better! It is my assumption that they are losing money on home garden seeds since production has to cost them more than their tiny sales, and they just keep it going so no one accuses them of discontinuing popular American tomato varieties. Whose goal is to"Advance the ethical development and stewardship of the genetic resources of agricultural seed.". prarie, clear as day. I point people to natives and to the NEWFS to purchase natives. Perhaps even more impressive is the companys history of innovation. And I prefer US grown produce always. It would be nice to have first-hand experience, accuracy, truthfulness and completeness in anything we read and I am quick to react when something doesn't smell right. If you repeat the same flaws, I will respond by repeating myself, too. %PDF-1.4 % No company sells GMO seeds to home gardeners.
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